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What happen with DZ and free themes?
« on: Oct 25, 2011, 00:09:03 »
Hi,
I just wondering what happens with DzinerStudio and free themes? Did DZ forgot about NEW free themes :( In past DZ released few quite amazing themes for free, now we can see only paid ones... Why? DZ changed from free/paid theme team to only paid ones (im talking here about new ones ofc)? Did DZ lost free software spirit already and changed to make profit from my work only?
It's sad i think :(

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #1 on: Oct 25, 2011, 00:27:20 »
There is a certain hesitance amongst people who make things available for free. For example, I wrote a great many mods for SMF, but I got so fed up with people just expecting me to spend my spare time making things for them that I stopped writing mods for SMF entirely.

Why do so many people insist things should be free?
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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #2 on: Oct 25, 2011, 01:41:18 »
I know that you spare your free time, but you could release time to time something for free.

Why? Free is good. For ex. if devs and ppl around the world think free isn't a good way. You haven't software like SMF, WordPress, Ubuntu (linux distribution), Android etc. You spare your free time making paid for free software so give some free options also not paid ones only right?

Don't get me wrong, I like DZ and was a subscriber once time here (time when SMF 2.0 was RC2-3  since then SMF theme system has changed and now I can throw DZ themes to trash,)... but I also miss a new free themes.
« Last Edit: Oct 25, 2011, 01:48:15 by Nolt »

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #3 on: Oct 25, 2011, 01:47:42 »
I agree with Nolt. Free things should always be avaliable. There's some people that are not rich, you know?

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #4 on: Oct 25, 2011, 01:54:35 »
Let's be clear. The free ones aren't given away necessarily because people feel good about it, it's a form of promotion.

When I really ramp up with Wedge plugin writing, I'll be giving a lot of them away for free, but I'll also have some paid plugins that will be much larger and much more complex (and thus require more of my time to support) - the free ones will be promotion, and the paid ones do things like pay for the server and mean that I can spend more time working on the platform as opposed to unrelated consulting work. I rather suspect something similar is applicable here.

Free is good, but only if that's what the market will support. Stuff shouldn't just be free 'because'. Free stuff gets written because people want to write it, paid stuff gets written because people are prepared to pay for it. That's how free market economics actually work.

And I think you're missing the point about people being rich or not. You do know that not everyone insists on financial contribution for everything? For example, I've donated subscriptions to people in the past for other things they've done. I've also bought subscriptions for things not because I needed them or anything but because I wanted to contribute something back when I didn't have the time or resources to do anything else.

There's also an element of respect there, too. I find that in most of these ecosystems, those who take and take and take don't have a lot of respect for those who keep giving, even leading to some cases of people taking other peoples' work and changing it very slightly, and republishing it as theirs. It's hard to keep releasing stuff like that when there's that low level of respect in there.
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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #5 on: Oct 25, 2011, 07:43:19 »
No we didn't forgot about free themes. As we said numerous times before, the main reason you hardly see any released is due to lack of time. We have other jobs and a social life to take care off, you know. With the available time we have, it's impossible for us to release a free AND a premium theme on a regular basis, especially if you want it to be an unique theme of a certain quality. So we have to set priorities. For obvious reasons we choose a premium theme.

For sure we still want to release a free theme now and then as well, but we need the time to draw & code the thing.  ;)

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #6 on: Oct 25, 2011, 08:09:00 »
yes I want to sue a quality free theme, free theme now look forward to

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #7 on: Oct 25, 2011, 08:16:32 »
Keep in mind that there are only two people contributing to creating themes here at DS. When you factor in professional work, social lives, updating current themes, offering support and creating premium themes that help keep this site open, it does not give much free time to create new free themes.

Also, one can always alter and manipulate any current premium or free theme to get the look that they desire.

Samples of what one can do with just about any theme.

Curve Theme Variations by smf Hack (ARG)

   

   




Dziner Studio Theme Variations by smf Hack (ARG)

   


   

   

   

   

   

More Dziner Studio Theme Variations by smf Hack (ARG)

   

   

   
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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #8 on: Oct 25, 2011, 08:19:35 »
dz, we would like from the original has long published a new free theme, I guess we do not want a lot of

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #9 on: Oct 25, 2011, 08:50:00 »
Inferno theme was published free of charge, see date Apr 26, 2010 will be almost 2 years :banghead:

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #10 on: Oct 25, 2011, 09:10:57 »
Inferno theme was published free of charge, see date Apr 26, 2010 will be almost 2 years :banghead:

Lol, I think that we know when our last free theme was released. I am fairly certain that everyone interested has already received the most useful answer to the free theme question.

No we didn't forgot about free themes. As we said numerous times before, the main reason you hardly see any released is due to lack of time. We have other jobs and a social life to take care off, you know. With the available time we have, it's impossible for us to release a free AND a premium theme on a regular basis, especially if you want it to be an unique theme of a certain quality. So we have to set priorities. For obvious reasons we choose a premium theme.

For sure we still want to release a free theme now and then as well, but we need the time to draw & code the thing.  ;)

It just cant get anymore clearer than that.   ;)

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #11 on: Oct 25, 2011, 10:23:46 »
No need to discuss with us the head with a polemic weapon dayamıyorz a free theme, free theme, do you do that, but it is not fair 2 years

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #12 on: Oct 25, 2011, 10:39:27 »
No need to discuss with us the head with a polemic weapon dayamıyorz a free theme, free theme, do you do that, but it is not fair 2 years

It's also not fair to keep demanding and expecting something for nothing out of people who do things in their spare time, but who's counting?
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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #13 on: Oct 25, 2011, 10:42:48 »
No need to discuss with us the head with a polemic weapon dayamıyorz a free theme, free theme, do you do that, but it is not fair 2 years

What do you consider as "not fair"? I just don't get it?
When you get things for free but still demand more from the source it borders on selfishness and greed. It has already been explained that a new free theme is possible but only when the theme designers have time to create a new free theme. There is no other way to explain this other than you will simply have to wait until the designers decide to spend the time to design a new free theme, if at all.

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #14 on: Oct 25, 2011, 10:46:01 »
No need to discuss with us the head with a polemic weapon dayamıyorz a free theme, free theme, do you do that, but it is not fair 2 years
Haha look at this guy. Unbelievable!
You make it sound like maYday and Bikken (owners of this site) owe you. Well they don't so stop demanding because she already answered your question.

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #15 on: Oct 25, 2011, 10:47:12 »
Then you need to play in the sauce does not allow you to say something to stop chattering Let the idiot who

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Re: What happen with DZ and free themes?
« Reply #16 on: Oct 25, 2011, 10:49:54 »
Then you need to play in the sauce does not allow you to say something to stop chattering Let the idiot who

Biting the hand that feeds you, real classic. Topic locked.

Nolt, the original topic starter may open a new topic if desired.

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« Last Edit: Oct 25, 2011, 10:52:22 by ARG »
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